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In regards to the Omega Trim, is there a template available similar to this one: https://bitbuilt.net/forums/index.php?threads/wii-trim-template.4790/

I was thinking that a template that can be printed and affixed to the board could help lower the barrier to entry for some of us lesser skilled modders. Imagine if I could just run it against a flush trim router bit without a care in the world <3
There will be no hand holding when it comes to OMEGA and certainly not Kawaii. Assembling one of these will be a challenge even for the most skilled modders here, this could be considered the final boss of Wii builds.
 

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is this something that shanks lumadoub would work for?
Sort of. LumaDoub can only accept 15khz signals (480i/240p) and not 31khz signals (480p). So lumadoub would work with this, but it would be suboptimal. A standard YPbPr to RGB transcoder circuit would work better for this application, as you would want to use 480p.
 

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I got a Bambu X1C and did some test prints of the dock shell. Ended up adding a ridge alongside the Kawaii and tweaking the internal mechanics a bit.

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Then I started working on testing the internal Kawaii PCB!

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I ordered the wrong size level shifter, so I'm unable to test the addressable RGB LED for now.

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Detail of the pogo pin interposer PCB which helps the two boards solder together:
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Internal PCB mated to the motherboard to create a three layer PCB sandwich:

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MHF4 RF0.81 coaxial pigtails deliver audio and video to the internal PCB:

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Replacement 1.15V tantalum:

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It works! Composite video, component video, and mode switching all function as expected.

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I accidentally swapped Y and Pr on the dock side, so that'll have to be fixed in the next dock PCB revision. I also forgot to connect MAX16054's CLR pin to GND. Two bodges ain't bad for a multi-board design.

Next, I'll wire up GC controllers and USB so I can do thermal testing!

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I wired up USB and controllers today!

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And also 3D printed some RGB LED plugs which press-fit into place. Since the metal shell will expand as it heats up, they may need to be glued in long term.

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It works!

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As expected, things are thermally marginal. I'm still dialing in a stable undervolt, but sadly this motherboard is a subpar undervolter. I have some Hollywood-2 Wii Minis and may trim one of those if the current Hollywood-1 OMEGA can't be reined in.
 

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Looks great! I hope undervolting will keep it chilly...
ALRIGHT BRUH. Real talk how much to get my hands on a Kawaii and this “dockable” portable?
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Looks great! I hope undervolting will keep it chilly...
I hope so too!

My old thermal paste was dried up... the new stuff just arrived.

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I sanded off some of the alumina to hopefully help with heat conduction. I didn't go overboard because I need to keep the rest of the shell non-conductive. Many solder joints are in contact with the insulative alumina, so any inadvertently exposed aluminum would be catastrophic.

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This motherboard really doesn't like being undervolted. In fact, its tolerance has decreased over the course of my testing. Not sure why that is. In the end, I had to go with a very mild undervolt to maintain stability.

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Stress testing glamour shot:

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With these settings, Thundervolt reported a board temp of 75°C after ~40 minutes of 4-player Melee. The case is well above the touch temperature comfort limit for metal (43°C)-- probably close to the touch temp safety limit of 60°C.

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It crashed after an hour or so. Wesk says this is typical of higher temps. Not good enough!

Keeping the board temp at 60C or below is the goal for stability reasons. I would like to get the outer shell temp to 50C or below, so it can be touched safely during operation.

Just to recap for those not in the Discord, here the options available for reducing heat in the Kawaii:

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= possible and may implement
= not yet possible
  • Using a Hollywood-2 Wii Mini OMEGA
    • Hollywood-2 motherboards are ~12% more efficient than Hollywood-1s on average
    • I have some Pico Ws in the mail so I can Bluebomb a few Minis and get started on this
  • Supplying Thundervolt with a lower voltage
    • The regulators on Thundervolt will be marginally more efficient when powered from 3.3V instead of 5V
    • This is a very easy change, just requiring an added buck in the dock, but won't help that much (delta of 10s of mW)
  • Adding a fan to the dock
    • @Wesk successfully added a 20x20x6mm blower fan to the dock MCAD, without growing its dimensions
    • This should probably be saved as a last resort to decrease temps if the other options can't get things below ~60C
    • But I'm going to add support for the fan in the next dock PCB revision regardless, so we have the option if needed
  • Using GameCube clockspeeds
    • Nintendont runs the Wii at normal Wii clockspeeds (729MHz CPU vs GameCube's 486MHz)
    • @Aurelio experimented with decreasing the clockspeeds, which can save 500-800mW over stock clocks, but there are still major issues to work out
    • Wesk and I have an experimental Nintendont build with GC clocks, but controllers don't work in it
    • It's unknown whether Wii games would still behave at decreased clocks
 

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With these settings, Thundervolt reported a board temp of 75°C after ~40 minutes of 4-player Melee. The case is well above the touch temperature comfort limit for metal (43°C)-- probably close to the touch temp safety limit of 60°C.
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Short update today. One of my Hollywood-2 Wii Minis is nearly ready to trim! Note: when installing AVEflex on a Mini, a single jumper wire is required for VDATA0.

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Here's the revised dock PCB, incorporating a lower voltage Kawaii supply, the 20x20x6mm fan, and multiple YPbPr pinout fixes.

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@Wesk did the all of the initial fan MCAD integration. I've been cleaning things up, and making sure the revised PCB fits snugly.

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Airflow path:

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Slow but steady progress :mrgreen:
 

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The Hollywood-2 Kawaii is alive! I'll let the pics do the talking.

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Final dock revision (for real this time!)

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Thermals are already way, WAY better than before. More testing to come after Thanksgiving!
 

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Im really hoping that the fan is only needed for hw 1 revisions instead of both
 

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Im really hoping that the fan is only needed for hw 1 revisions instead of both
It'll be optional either way, if you're in a cooler room with adequate airflow the Kawaii should be fine. We are testing things with the "worst case" scenario.
 
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